From: < lndmonk@yahoo.com
To: <Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:51 AM
Subject: [Phoenix_Exotics] Florida

A bill is going to be presented in the house tomorrow possibly called the
"Python Act or Bill". It is being presented by Rep Bill Posey district
24 (1850-487-5053) and Rep Poppell district 29 (850- 488-3006).

The actual bill or number could not be found yet but it is to stop the
breeding and selling of exotics in Florida. Not sure which exotics yet.

Carol Baskins is going to be at a press conference in Tallahassee today
to support it.

Just getting information on this and will let you know clarifications as
they come. Please get involved in this one!

_Simply~Simian Inc._ (http://www.simply-simian.com/index.html)
_Protest Big Cat Rescue and Carole Baskins _
( http://www.simply-simian.com/catrescu.htm )

From: "Bob Nevin" < bob@...
Date: Thu Feb 9, 2006 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Florida iluvclydesda...

What's the deal with these people?!

We had a 10' boa constrictor or python for a 6th grade classroom pet in
Elementary school and no one blinked an eye. Now if your neighbor has one
people freak!! More small pets get squashed by cars than get swallowed by a
pet snake. Give me a break. Oh now I see they want to lump in other exotics
in as well.

This society has gotten so into safety and sterilization, its driving me
nuts! Here is the latest safety craze at my supermarket, seat belts for the
shopping carts - required!!! ugh

One thing I need to stress regarding this bill is the breeding situation.
Banning breeding will highly limit the amount of genetic diversity in an
animal population. Though controls can be made so that the animal breed
doesn't overpopulate, banning breeding outright will not fix the problem.
Banning the sale of such animals will also not solve the problem and
actually make it more difficult to for state animal control officers to
enforce. All this would just go underground and there will be a huge lack of
control on the breeding because it will go undocumented just as there is in
drug trafficking.

I know I'm preaching to the choir but want to give my thanks to lndmonk for
bringing this to our attention.

I will send my 2 cents to the Governor and state congress people ASAP even
though I'm not from Florida.

-Bob
(Its my God Given right to responsibly own a lion and support those who do.)

From: "Ray" < rrooney@ucwphilly.rr.com ...
Date: Tue Feb 7, 2006 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Contact Geraldo runeraion

Who? Big Cat Rescue? It's been covered here in excruciating detail the last
month. Just go to the Yahoogroups site and read the messages you passed
over. In a nutshell:

The story starts with Carole's husband's dream.

Big Cat Rescue got its start as Wildlife On Easy Street (WOES) back in the
mid 90s.

It was founded by millionaire Don Lewis, who made his fortune in real
estate, trucking, and other ventures.

WOES was started as a unique bed & breakfast where visitors were allowed to
come and learn about exotic cats and, after a bit of instruction, were
allowed to spend nights in a cabin divided in half - one side for the tiger,
lion, etc.they would spend the night with and the other for the guests. A screened
wall separated them.

They bred and bought animals in a fashion similar to Tippi Hedren years ago.
They published books on having exotic cat pets. Things were sweet for the
millionaire and his second wife but they were about to sour.

Tired of hassles from government and AR people Don Lewis purchased 200 acres
of land near Begaces, Costa Rica to move the operation to. This is when
trouble started for him.

Life in the USA is easy, convenient and comes with all civilized amenities.
At the best, life in Costa Rica would be uncomfortable and basics such as
electricity undependable. Never mind good highways, malls, clubs, spas,
entertainment, etc. Carole was well less than thrilled and made it known to
Don.

Don started setting things up and was preparing to transport vehicles there
on Monday, August 18th, 1997. He supposedly left home to do this and drop
off some signs at his real estate agent's office and was never seen again.

The signs were found outside the real estate agent's office when they
arrived that day but nobody had seen Don.

The next day, August 19, Don's wife Carole filed a missing person report
with the sheriff's office.

Don's van was found the following day at Pilot Country Airport in
Springhill. The manager said it had been there a couple of days, parked on
the grass between some planes and hwy 52. The keys to the van were still in
it, tossed on the
floor. Nothing of note was found in it.

Then authorities got a tip that Don and Carole were having marital
difficulties and that Don had gone to court 2 months before claiming Carole
had threatened to kill him. The judge turned down his petition for
protection and Don went on living with Carole until he disappeared.

Don's children from his first marriage accused Carole of killing him and
feeding him to the big cats. Deputies searched Wildlife On Easy Street but
found no evidence.

Did Don Lewis just up and fly away to Costa Rico, leaving everything in
life, including his kids, friends, and millions, behind? Or did someone just
want it to look that way?

In 2002 Carole got Don declared legally dead and inherited everything.

In 2004 Carole married board member Howard Baskin on November 1st and is now
known as Carole Baskin.

Following Don's disappearance Wildlife On Easy Street turned 180 degrees. It
no longer promoted ownership but opposed it and joined AR and sanctuary
groups and started spouting the party line against ownership.

The cats that Don and Carole had bred and bought suddenly got "stories"
about how they were saved from abuse and abandonment. A few animals were
taken in and their stories embellished similarly.

The move to Costa Rica obviously never happened and it is unclear what
became of the land. Sold to developers? Defaulted on?

Carole decided the name of her operation did not sound good and changed it
to Big Cat Rescue. She is now Florida's version of Carole Asvestas (Wild
Animal Orphanage aka Animal Sanctuary Of The United States) and campaigns
for bans countrywide and seeks to change Florida's constitution if she can't
get them to ban more ownership.

Stories abound of questionable fund raising, improper keeping and treatment,
and shady deals. See the recent messages here for more.

I will let those engaged in the protests fill you in on their actions and
reasons but that too has all been here for weeks.

What is missing is any media interest in telling the true story of this
terrible string of events. Even Geraldo's show will be promoting them
instead of investigating them.

This is wrong.

Ray

From: < lndmonk@yahoo.com
To: <monkeyyardsale@yahoogroups.com; <repo-pac@yahoogroups.com;
<simply_simian@yahoogroups.com; <Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com;
<SSAMembership@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:59 AM
Subject: [Phoenix_Exotics] Protest information:

The Protest against the Big Cat Rescue and Carole Baskins will be on this
coming Saturday starting at 9 AM thru 1 PM. Meet at the corner of Easy
Street and Citrus road. Please dress in a manner that will not reflect badly on
the protestors. This is an important protest as Ms. Baskins is one of the
very ones who is influencing legislators against private owners of exotics.
Not just cats. All exotics. If she can be shown for exactly what she is her
influence will be nullified. This is very very important and anyone that
can be there should try and attend.
NO YELLING OR SCREAMING OR PROFANITY. simply hand out flyers and answer
questions. DO NOT BRING YOUR PETS. Vernon Yates will be spokesman and
talk to the media which will be in attendance.

Lets show our support for this man who has stood up for private owners for
years and continues to do so.

I will be leaving NC on Thursday for Florida and have room for a few
companions if you want to attend and need a ride let me know asap.

Linda

_Simply~Simian Inc._ (http://www.simply-simian.com/index.html)
_Support Vernon Yates Demonstration_
(http://www.simply-simian.com/catrescu.htm)

From: Tim Stoffel < tim@...
Date: Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:37 am
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Carole Baskins is on the Hillsnborough Co. Animal Advisory Committee timbalionguy

On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 14:24 +0000, Dana wrote:
Hello Group! I am a new member. I have the large macaws for pets. I
live in Hillsborough County Florida.
Carole Lewis Baskins is on the Hillsborough County Animal Advisory
Commmittee.The Animal Advisory Committee is an appointed group of
people to develope the long range plans for the Animal Ordinances and
Policies of this county. The appointed memebers of this committtee are
also members of animal activist groups. So much for being neutral, all
seem to have personal agenda to push thru.(mandatory microchipping ect.)
I object to Carole being on this committee. I would like any feedback
that would give me factual info on her.
It is bad enough that she would like to take our right to own exotics
away, but now to "regulate" how we own our pets(dogs and cats).
Thanks, Dana

Expose and discredit them!

For the lions,
Tim Stoffel

From: "Bob Nevin" < bob@...
Date: Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:14 am
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] URGENT iluvclydesda...

Well you caught me with nothing but dust mites in my wallet!! lol I just got
done paying a huge tax bill and I'm up in Ohio. I have an idea though and
that's to spread the word about this to other animal groups like
DraftnDrive, Some of your primate sites. There is another one called Tigers
as Pets too.

Hope this helps.
-Bob

From: < lndmonk@yahoo.com
To: <Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] URGENT

In a message dated 1/24/06 8:05:53 PM Central Standard Time,
bob@... writes:

I'm with him in spirit.

I was hoping for more than spiritual help..lol... I am going to be going
down there I am pretty sure, and am busy printing out flyers now. We are
also making a booklett of Carole Baskins life to mail out to the polititians
she is courting now.. lets see how they like being associated with a suspected
murderer? And a admitted liar and forger.. Susan already admitted to the
cops she lied n the stand about the will and her name was forged on it.. too
bad she didn't tell the truth the first time and this all may have had a different
outcome.

Is there no one on this list that can take the time for a Fl vacation now?
People need to start standing up for what they believe and say.. bullys always back down when faced with real opposition.

_Simply~Simian Inc._ (http://www.simply-simian.com/index.html)

From: "Z" < tigers9@...
Date: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:03 pm
Subject: RE: [Phoenix_Exotics] URGENT zbrubruff

I live too far but please keep us posted:-)
Z

From: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lndmonk@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:42 AM
To: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Phoenix_Exotics] URGENT

OK guys we have a guy that is willing to stand up and be heard... Vernon
Yates in Fl is going to picket Carole Baskins and her big Cat rescue
Facility during the upcoming event at her place with the polititians ( major sucking
up) and needs help... Anyone that can attend the demonstration please get in
touch with Vernon. I am personally planning on trying to get there.. If
you can help in any other way please do so. He will need funds to print flyers, but

mostly he needs support. He has fought this woman for a long time with no help and should have been supported all along since Carole has made it very clear she is against us all as private owners... Lets help him out... Linda

You can also donate to just help Vernon with his facility since Carole has done all possible to discredit and dishonor him for his stance against her. I am sure he would appreciate some help with his animals at this time also.

_Simply~Simian Inc._ (http://www.simply-simian.com/index.html)

From: "Z" < tigers9@...
Date: Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:14 am
Subject: RE: [Phoenix_Exotics] carole Baskin petition zbrubruff

Here is the story of these cougar kittens as told/seen/imagined by Carol
Baskin.
She makes people feel sorry for these cubs, but her petition is against
private ownership, gee, how deceitful IMHO.
Z
http://www.bigcatrescue.org/rescuenewscubs.htm

From: "Bob Nevin" < bob@...
Date: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Kids, Cats & Candidates-Carol Baskin press release iluvclydesda...

Ok this Carole person is a true whack Job.

From: < lndmonk@yahoo.com
To: <Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Kids, Cats & Candidates-Carol Baskin press
release

From the WEB:

_Welcome to Wildlife Rescue and Rehab_ (http://www.wrrfl.org/)

Follow up on the "disappearance" of Carole's Lewis Baskin's former
husband, Don Lewis, in 1997, case # 97-069-358 with the Hillsborough County
Sheriff's Dept.

On Thursday January 19th a cold case detective paid a visit to Susan
Aronoff, a former friend of Carole and staff member of Wildlife On Easy
Street/Big Cat Rescue. During this interview Susan admitted to the detective that it
was not her signature on Don's supposed will which appeared after he
disappeared. Susan revealed that Carole had forged her name as a witness to Don's will
and that she was told by Carole to appear in court and say that the signature
was in fact her own.

Susan further admitted that she perjured herself in court out of fear of Carole, as she had cats boarded at Easy Street and believed they could be in danger if she did not cooperate.

From: lndmonk@yahoo.com
Date: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:01 am
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Kids, Cats & Candidates-Carol Baskin press release lndmonk

In a message dated 1/23/06 4:56:22 AM Central Standard Time, tim@...
writes:

This woman doesn't mess around!
She's mis-educating children and politicians at the same time. Perhaps a
whole bunch of us need to visit that day wearing T-shirts with the TRUTH
on them!

there are already people out there insisting on something being done about
her..On Thurs Jan 19th a cold case detective showed up at the home of one of
the supposed witnesses on the will.This witness admitted to the detective that
it was not her signature on the will, that Carole forged it, and the witness' perjured herself in court under fear of Carole, as her cats were boarded there.
That same detective is following up on several other peoples information on
her.

Why don't we all simply write the polititians stating what we all know about
her and her so called rescue operation? I am sure they would not want to be
associated with someone that was suspected of feeding her vanished husband
to the cats?

Hopefully in the near future the whole thing will be resolved so Don's children and friends can get on with their lives knowing the truth about his dissappearance. There are agencys working on it now.

_Simply~Simian Inc._ ( http://www.simply-simian.com/index.html )

From: "chimps" < chimps@...
Date: Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:32 pm
Subject: [Phoenix_Exotics] Carol Baskin: link w/interesting info re BCR/WOES luvgr8apes

Here's an interesting site where someone finally has the cajones to stand up to
Carole and expose her true agenda and lies on an actual website. There's also a
link to an article from a People magazine special edition titled True Crime
Stories with photos of Carole and her mysterious 'missing' millionaire husband.
Check it out..
http://wildliferescueandrehab.org/learnthetruth/index.html