From: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Nevin #bios
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:04 AM
To: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Carol Baskin: Video of ShereKhan free
This leads me to believe that Carol is mis informing the public so that she can set the rules of owning exotics on her terms as other groups like PETA and HSUS are doing.
THEREFORE we must resolve an action that we as a group must stand up together
to
fight off these vicious lies and mis information and to band together to help
those folks (NOT FIGHT AGAINST) who are at risk for having their animals taken
away and fight against laws banning or highly restricting exotic animals.
Why in the world are we not suing PETA and Carol for making up lies? funny
but I
feel like we are getting walked over and stomped on. Are there any Legal Eagles
out there that can come up with some way to shut these organizations down?
From: "Z" < tigers9@...
Date: Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:56 pm
Subject: RE: [Phoenix_Exotics] Carol Baskin: Video of ShereKhan free zbrubruff
Just not to create confusion, the tape was made at Carol's place,Wildliofe
on easy Street,NOT Dennis place one week after Carol got ShereKhan from
Dennis. SK is obviously normally behaved healthy tiger cub.
Z
From: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Nevin
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:04 AM
To: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Carol Baskin: Video of ShereKhan free
I got the video from Z and I thank you. I see someone who is playing with SK
(for short) as a cub in a small water tub. Cubs are different from adults duh but in my humble opinion this animal not a candidate for removal from the property unless the rescuers and prove without a reasonable doubt (my grandfather was a municipal judge) that the cats where mistreated in any way
shape or form and given adequate care and security. From what I saw in this tape I saw a person playing with a cub more gently and caring than an adult mother tiger would. This leads me to believe that Carol is mis informing the public so that she can set the rules of owning exotics on her terms as other groups like PETA and HSUS are doing.
THEREFORE we must resolve an action that we as a group must stand up together to fight off these vicious lies and mis information and to band together to help those folks (NOT FIGHT AGAINST) who are at risk for having their animals taken away and fight against laws banning or highly restricting exotic animals.
Why in the world are we not suing PETA and Carol for making up lies? Funny but I feel like we are getting walked over and stomped on. Are there any Legal Eagles out there that can come up with some way to shut these organizations down?
From: "Z" < tigers9@...
To: <Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:04 PM
Subject: [Phoenix_Exotics] Carol Baskin: Video of ShereKhan free
I just made 2MB mpeg video of ShereKhan from Carol's tape Big Cat
Companions, and who ever wants to see it email me privately and I will
send it to u so u can see how she is lying on her website. I don't know
Dennis
Hill, but this is disseminating lies against him (in my humble opionion)what
she is saying on her website .
All I am interested is the truth, and all u breeders/dealers on this
list,
see this story and be careful who u sell to, money is not everything,
u need
to fight these lies some scamstuaries tell about their animals and how
they
got them.U guys have USDA transfer papers, PROVE it how some sanctuaries
are buying pets not rescuing, u have the official proof.
Z
Tigers9@.. .
Read and compare with video
http://www.bigcatrescue.org/big_cat_ news_files/2005/sherekhanownershutdn.htm
From: "Z" < tigers9@...
Date: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:18 am
Subject: RE: [Phoenix_Exotics] What's the rest of the story? zbrubruff
I just read what she had to say about Shere Khan on her website, this is the
tiger featured in the video I have, Big Cat Companions that Carol and Don used
to sell back then.
They show tiger on the tape, tiger looks great, they say they just got him
a week prior making this tape from loving a home and that his 'only' problem
was he was biting.
Then they admit this is their first tiger.Carol and Don obviously had no idea
how to train a tiger , it is normal for young animals like this
to be biting, but judging/looking at the tape Shere Khan was NOT bad at all.
Dennis Hill needs to fight this accusations, using this tape would be a good
start,the tape shows that 1 week after arriving to Carol his conditions was
great, if he was as sick as carol claims on her website, he codln't look so
good on the tape, especially since she herself narrates it how loving tiger's
previous home was,. Can u please fwd this email to Dennis? If Dennis is bad,
carol needs real facts not lies to shut him down
Zuzana
From: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marsha
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:36 AM
To: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Phoenix_Exotics] What's the rest of the story?
Carole (Lewis) Baskin of Big Cat Rescue has recently sent out an appeal to
shut down Shere Khan's breeder, Dennis Hill of Indiana. Shere Khan arrived
at Wildlife on Easy Street as a cub in 1995. He is the star attraction
at BCR. I hand fed him a couple of chicken legs back before they started
using tongs. WHY the sudden campaign more
than 10 years later? What's the rest of the story???
http://www.bigcatrescue.org/big_cat_news_files/2005/sherekhanownershutdn.htm
From: "Gini" < ginival@...
Date: Sun Jan 8, 2006 6:29 pm
Subject: Tigers9...Carole Lewis Baskin tape ginigoneape
Could you please copy the tape you speak of and mail it to me? I will be happy
to pay you to do this. Carole is here in my area and her 'missing' ex was a
friend. I have a file on her and we have been looking for a copy of this tape
that she sold along with her book about keeping exotic cats as pets. She is
buttering up all the local county commissioners and speaking out against us
and we want to be able to show them her true character. Yes, of course people
can 'change' but she has so much in her past that accumulatively you have to
at least wonder about her credibility and character. Contact me at home please.
Gini
From: lndmonk@yahoo.com
Date: Fri Jan 6, 2006 11:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Dear Carol of former Wildlife on Easy street lndmonk
In a message dated 1/6/06 9:22:53 PM Central Standard Time, otaije@...
writes:
http://capwiz.com/bigcatrescue/iss ues/alert/?alertid=8349821&queueid=[capwiz:
queue_id_
I did just taht and wrote a letter: copy below:
Thank you for using Big Cat Rescue Mail System
Message sent to the following recipients:
Carole Baskin
Message text follows:
Linda Hunnicutt
secretary
Simply simian inc
po box 671
winnie, TX 77665-0671
January 6, 2006
[recipient address was inserted here]
Dear [recipient name was inserted here],
Mr. Ken Hagan
County Commissioner - District 2
County Center, 2nd Floor
Tampa, FL 33602
Dear Commissioner Hagan,
Please support the proposed rezoning application RZ 06-0115 for Big
Cat
Rescue.
Carole baskins has used her cats for her own profit for years, she
threatened to kill her husband who was a millionaire and when he had
restraining orders put on her he dissappeared? Never to be found yet
she
acquired his estate thoruhg what has been reported as a fake will. she
has been written up by the USDA for abuse of animals in her care and
now
wants the public support? My God what a lot of nerve..
Why has her husbands dissappearance never been fully investigated?
Did the cats eat well in 1997:?
Thank you for considering my request that support Big Cat Rescue in
their
rezoning application RZ 06-0115.
Sincerely,
Linda Hunnicutt
409 6734891
secretary
Simply simian inc
_Simply~Simian Inc._ ( http://www.simply-simian.com/index.html )
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Z and others re: Carole Lewis Baskins leiloublue
In a message dated 1/6/2006 2:36:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
ginival@... writes:
Let's not forget that this self-righteous woman who speaks of ethics
and morals is still the main suspect in the 1997 disappearence of her
millionnaire husband, Don Lewis who has been declared dead, although
his body has never been found. He filed for a restraining order (which
was denied) after she threatened to kill him just weeks before he
disappeared!
She will blame all her previous breeding and selling for pets on Don, who conveniently isn't here to defend himself, but It was Carole who dealt directly with a local pet shop on buying baby bobs and servals.
Her website is full of lies about the origin and treatment of her cats as well as her rantings about other private owners, as many of her former volunteers can attest to. If anyone wants to read more on this hypocrite contact me privately.
From: BOB PITT < azooforu@...
Date: Fri Jan 6, 2006 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Dear Carol of former Wildlife on Easy street azooforu
Hell no her ground ain't strong !!! Her whole place is on a former land fill. material still pushes up thru the ground. Call her what she is a slum lord and animal WHORE !!!
--- SOUTHZOO@... wrote:
I'd say that this "East Coast Tippi" type is quite aware
that her transparency would be seen by our group. To take such high moral
ground, one would think she'd be first in line to explain to us how wrong
we are. Maybe her ground isn't so strong. What
is it? The truth shall set you free?
Rhonda
From: Z < tigers9@...
To: MakeADifference@...;
info@...
Cc: Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:58:03 -0800
Subject: [Phoenix_Exotics] Dear Carol of former
Wildlife on Easy street
Dear Carol, since (in my humble opinion) you happen to be
one of the most
hypocritical&controversial person in exotic animal world, I
have been watching you for a while, I remember your "guests sleeping
with the big cats for lots of $$$ in your cottages " business venture to
your selling horrible quality video tapes on how to breed and raise exotic
cats pets ( YES, I own your tape) .
You bought and bred many exotic cats, you had a volunteer badly injured by leopard in 1998, so I don't understand what made you one day to turn around and become a god and 'non profit rescue' and criticize the rest of us ethical exotic owners. Remember the saying: people who throw rocks shouldn't live in glass houses? You have a very colorful past, not a very good resume for a wannabe preacher.
And while you criticize others, you have $50 dollars a head feed the
tiger business venture http://www.bigcatrescue.org/feeding_tours.htm
with welded fence (4x4 inch?) where visitors can easily put there hand
inside the tiger cage during their feeding ? See the video:
http://www.tampabays10.com/aroundth ebay/aroundthebay_article.aspx?storyid=23
278
You criticize Phoenix members, while you yourself keep the animals in cages and engage in activities that can be dangerous and you do it for the entertainment/amusement of people who pay you.
When we invited you to speak at our Phoenix Exotics Las Vegas meeting
this year, this was your reply (posted on our website with your permission):
http://www.phoenixexotics.org/p2006meeting.html
CEO of Big Cat Rescue an Educational Sanctuary Home ,Carole Baskin was also
invited to be a Guest Speaker for the upcoming 2006 Phoenix exotics Annual
Meeting. "Phoenix Exotics has long stood for everything that I oppose
when it comes to ethics. I cannot imagine your group would invite me there
for anything but a stoning. I speak for the
animals, not for the selfish people who would breed them for life in
cages for their own
amusement, regardless of their lame justifications for it. "
Sincerely
Zuzana Kukol, VP
www.phoenixexotics.org
http://www.phoenixexotics.org/
From: lndmonk@aol.com
To: monkeyyardsale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [monkeyyardsale] Caorle Baskins.
In a message dated 3/10/06 3:06:36 PM Central Standard Time, lndmonk@aol.com
writes:
No Vernon didn't I did... with Vernons information..lol.... and with all the
messages we have sent out, (you and me) she is being removed from the
commission board and they will be doing a TV expose' on her next week.. the
tv crew is out at Vernons now.. he keeps calling me and having me speak to
the reporter on behalf of simply simian... so we are in the forefront anyway....
Gloria is the one that wanted the website.. she is our ace in the hole, a professional
lobbyist.. doing a crack up job at it too.. and she is thinking we are angels
as we put that site up for her.. she was supposed to send you a check for the
cost a few days ago.. so when you get it that is what it is for... not a membership...
from Gloria Johnson...
I thought this was going to Karen please you guys keep this quiet...
Monkey Transport Fund ( March 2006)
SIMPLY SIMIAN INC.
Repo-Pac
Grannys against Peta
Warrior Grannys strike against Peta.
From: "Ray" < rrooney@ucwphilly.rr.com ...
Date: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:26 pm
Subject: Carole Baskin Slams Lion Movie runeraion
Even South Africa isn't safe from her...
Inbred Lions Shouldn't Be Glamorized
I am appalled at the ignorance behind the creation of such a film and those who would support it about how the white lions are produced. If the average person is equally uninformed then this sort of propaganda will surely lead to more suffering as all of the back yard breeders start trying to fill the new need for white lions by inbreeding their cats to the point of deformity and death. To learn more about how the white coats are created in lions and tigers read more at: http://www.bigcatrescue.org/white_tigers.htm
Carole Baskin, MakeADifference@... [13 Mar 2006 15:26]
http://www.bizcommunity.com/Content/Comment.aspx?l=196&c=11&cci=22879
From: Bigcats10@aol.com
Date: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:35 pm
Subject: RE; Expose on BCR bigcats10
Hi Folks,
An expose on BCR should air tonight at 5pm EST on Baynews9. It could change,
but as of right now this is the schedule.
Vicki
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