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Exotic Pet Owner Profile Exotic Pet Owner Profile
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Who Keeps Dangerous Animals as Pets?
See an interactive online map of exotic cat owners .
As is often the case, the media is looking for eye candy and bizarre tales to titillate the public because the public is often deemed too dull to really understand matters of substance. It is a self perpetuating prophecy then that reporting entertainment and calling it news creates a society that is apathetic toward real news because it isn't considered main stream, and thus is often labeled as being the work of zealots with some imagined, anti cultural agenda.
Little do the reporters know that when they ask the question, "Who keeps dangerous animals as pets?" they are really asking one of the more profound sociological questions of our age. There is a stereotype; and as someone who grew up being described as a beautiful blonde (who would, of course, be stereotyped as dumb) I disdain stereotyping more than most, but if there is anything at which I excel, it is recognizing a pattern.
Despite my lack of formal education I score at the genius level in IQ tests because the tests do not measure what you know, but rather measure one's ability to recognize a pattern. I became successful in real estate investment by looking at hundreds of properties before buying one. I look at entire trends, or patterns of growth in areas to determine the best deals. I taught myself how to do all of my own legal work by pulling case files of similar cases and looking for what they all had in common and emulating the process. There was a time when I had 60 such foreclosures, evictions and quiet title suits pending in the same year and did them all pro se. I only ever lost one case and won it on appeal.After rescuing 56 lynx from a fur farm and discovering there was virtually nothing available in the literature to enable me to care for the cats I began meticulously detailing every meal, every incremental gain in weight and every observation in order to compile the data into information that could then be relied upon for future reference. This website is a culmination of much of that research and again, I taught myself how to build a website by looking at others and seeing what the good ones had in common.
Regardless of the topic, there will always be exceptions to the rules, but in the case of people who possess wild animals those exceptions are so rare that they even further emphasize the commonality of the rest. The traits are so apparent in the manner of the person and the nature of their handiwork, whether it be a web site, a blog or the way that they exploit the wildlife in their possession that even the most gullible can see through the transparent veneer.
Some of the characteristics are embraced by both genders and others are gender related.
What is almost universally shared by those who keep wild animals as pets, or props and even most of those who operate private zoos and sanctuaries is that they are uneducated, poor, unattractive, hot tempered, attention seekers. Marked differences in the genders are that men are usually slovenly, womanizing, have a criminal history or leanings, and are dependant on drugs or alcohol to manage their depression. Whereas women are most often blonde, fat, have low self esteem, are childless or estranged from their families, and prone to rages of jealousy. This generalization may sound harsh but you don't have to be a genius to observe the people involved and verify the validity of such statements yourself.
Considering these personal traits it also makes clear the necessity of having something that makes them feel good about themselves. In the case of those who make pets of wild animals, there is a universal need on their part to portray themselves as having a bond with the wild that other "mere mortals" cannot achieve. They will always tell you that they have a special gift or training that sets them apart, so that THEY can pet the tiger, but YOU cannot. They call themselves "Educators" and drag their wild animals around from flea market to fair ground, espousing the reasons that OTHER people (the mere mortals) should not attempt to have these as pets, because only THEY are special enough to have such a pet. Roy Horn would surely have uttered the same sentiments just minutes before his tiger, Montecore, nearly killed him on stage in Las Vegas.
If you meet an exotic pet owner without a boa around their neck, or a tiger on a chain, within two minutes they have pulled out a dog-eared photo album of all of their pictures of them restraining animals that would never allow a human near them if they had the choice. In their eyes it is an immediate way to even the playing field and let others know that they are equals, if not superior. The overwhelming need to do so is a manifestation of the great lack of self esteem they feel but dare not admit, even to themselves. The mood elevating drugs (legal and illegal) and the alcohol are the only ways they can deaden themselves to the pain that cannot be remedied no matter how much they talk about their wild animal connection.
On the flip side of this gender role is the woman who is so physically and emotionally undesirable that no man will have her, but if she has a back yard full of tigers she can attract the attention of young men who come seeking a way to prove their manhood by subduing a wild animal that would kill him in an instant were the two to meet in a natural situation. It is the same unquenchable desire to feel empowered without paying the price of self introspection and change and could be likened to the gambler's quest for easy money without work.
By the early 1990's science was beginning to discover the extent to which animals exhibited intelligence and emotion. Anyone who has ever had a pet cat or dog could tell you that they are intelligent and that they feel loneliness, anger, resentment, embarrassment, joy and a host of emotions, but it took science hundreds of years to catch up. Keeping wild animals captive began to be considered cruel and self serving as people became aware of the fact that the tiger in the cage could experience the pain of being held against his will. It became fashionable then for exotic pet owners to call themselves "educators" and some even manage to give an educational spiel but it doesn't matter how good the message may be; if you are standing there with a cougar on a leash, no one is hearing the message. They are just thinking how cool it would be if they could have a cougar on a leash. The litmus test is the fact that these people were not doing conservation education before they needed that label to justify their behavior and the minute they can't use the animal as a prop they wouldn't choose to be in the education business.
The roadside zoo operators and pseudo sanctuarians are, in many cases, just a more organized version of the exotic pet owner and have found ways to get the public to support their delusions of grandeur. They portray themselves as rescuers and martyrs for their cause. When they are poor and filthy and uneducated they can tell themselves and others that it is because they are so altruistic that all of their time and energy is being sacrificed for the good of the animals they have saved. They quickly learn that high profile rescues and having cute babies around bring in donations. They claim to breed the animals to save them from extinction, when none of the animals in these collections are really involved in any conservation breeding programs. They claim to be educating the public to save habitat and the planet by taking their cats out to parking lots in circus wagons and setting up a donation jar. Some do a better job of fooling the public than others and the media often plays into their hands, but the only real purpose they serve is their own self aggrandizement and a way to pay their bills without having to get a real job.
These exploiters can rescue far more cats if the cats kill each other and for that reason these places are often closed to the public. If the fighting and killing becomes known to the public it is rationalized by the sanctuarian who protests that it is the cat's fault if they won't get along, claiming that they did their part to rescue the animal and if it insists on getting killed, then it is the animal's lack of gratitude at fault. The same irrational reasoning is used to excuse why they do not provide medical care for the animals by caustically replying to you, as if you were the idiot, that these animals don't get medical care in the wild. The same excuse is used for not providing contraception and the side benefit they get from that is that the cubs produced are often food for the rest of the animals in the group and if they need a new baby for photo ops or for media attention there is always one to use. In order to cover their misdeeds the policies in these kinds of places are to not give the animals names, under the guise of avoiding anthropomorphism, but the real reason is because there are virtually no state or federal laws that require positive identification of the animals and not having a name makes it even harder to track what has happened to an animal after it was "rescued."
These operations invariably implode. When they do, the owners move away, abandon the animals, and tell themselves and the world that they have done their part and must retire because it has taken all they had, which was nothing to begin with. They will dramatically sweep a hand to their brow and announce that they are dying and that it is time someone else stepped up and took over. When they walk away from all of the animals that they so professed to love, they do so with no feelings of remorse because they are more affected by their sense of entitlement than to anything that resembles responsibility.They move to a new place, change their name and do it all over again.
Even those "sanctuarians" who do not publicly speak out against more protective laws do virtually nothing to assist in their passage. Some may pay lip service to the activity but it doesn't take long to figure out that they know nothing of the pending legislation in their state nor at a federal level. They love to cite the IRS as their reason to not get involved, implying or stating that charities cannot participate in any way, but that isn't true. They frequently excuse their behavior by saying that they "don't like politics" or will say they are too busy with their mission to get involved. That makes as much sense as feverishly bailing out an overflowing bathtub and saying you are too busy or too averse to knobs to turn off the water. The fact of the matter is that they define themselves by being perceived as saviors and if there were no wild animals to save they would lose their only redeeming feature.
We now have nearly half a century of data on the subject of people who keep wild animals captive and yet until the time that you read these words you probably never saw an in depth investigation into the troubled and delusional minds of those who are the captors. And that begs an even more important question..."why not?"
Not to minimal its deleterious effects on the person practicing it, but consider how much attention has been focused on women who vomit after every meal to stay thin. Oddly, the initial instigator is one and the same in that television portrays the perfect women as being gaunt to the point of it being an unrealistic achievement barring bulimia or some latter stage disease. You can't check out in a grocery store line without seeing headlines about celebrities weight struggles, and yet, to my knowledge, no one was ever so fat or so thin that an innocent bystander was killed or mauled by coming in close contact with people who are diagnosed as being obsessed with their appearance. Just since 1990 there have been more than 650 incidents involving captive big cats in the U.S. So why is it that you rarely hear more than a passing comment about the mental instability of most wild animal owners?
I think it may be the same reason that it took me, someone who takes great pride in their ability to recognize a pattern, more than 15 years to see what was undeniably before my eyes. To look objectively at the similarities in these tiger-tamer-wannabees meant that I had to look within as well. Not only who I was; blonde, fat, uneducated, poor, lacking self esteem and estranged from my family, but who I am today. It wasn't until I was willing to take a good hard look in the mirror that I could plainly see underlying neurosis that so many of us share.
I am fortunate to not have grown up impoverished or in the presence of domestic violence. The very thing that makes so many "animal people" unemployable; their disdain for conformity, is what makes me successful in business, so I am fortunate to have been able to turn that to my advantage. My estrangement from my family was only because I felt like I wasn't good enough for them, and once I came to appreciate my talents we were rejoined and have worked together, side by side in caring for the animals. Having overcome obesity, cigarettes and alcohol I feel empowered and in control of my own life. Perhaps if I had not been so blessed, I would never have been able to cast the harsh light of reality on the mass illusion that I once shared. Mass illusion, because it extends to much of our society; not just those who are in possession of animals who were meant to live free.
We are a generation who was raised with zoos and circuses and even our religions proclaimed man to be master of all beasts, with little or nothing said about the command to be good stewards. We want to believe that our goodness is so palpable that even the most ferocious of animals would give up their freedom just to live in our homes. Even those who do not currently live that way often will say, "if I won the lottery, I'd have a pet tiger" as if to say that money is all that keeps them from indulging such fantasy. When we see that cute baby animal being cuddled on some talk show we choose to NOT think about where the animal's mother is, or how it came to be that he was taken from her to be used this way. When we pay to see a film about tiger brothers, even when we know that more than 30 tigers were used in the film, we choose to NOT think about where those animal will be a year from now.
If we acknowledge great suffering and choose to look the other way, how can we reconcile our conscience? When the answers are so easy and cost us little more than a few letters and phone calls to our legislators, and yet we are unwilling to do even that small thing to alleviate the suffering of tens of thousands of wild animals who are languishing in cages, possessed by a class of people who would be criminals if they treated people the way they treat their "beloved pets" how can we feel good about ourselves? Sometimes the truth hurts, but no one suffers more than the exotic animals when the only thing they have; their desire to live free, is taken from them. The purpose here is not to insult or cast blame, but to demystify the nature of the typical exotic cat owner. I believe that we are all on a path to our higher self and that even the worst of the abusers will one day look inside and redirect their actions. Until that time comes the words of Martin Luther King, Jr. still ring true, "Legislation cannot change the heart, but it can restrain the heartless.
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Gert & Abby Hedengran Gert & Abby Hedengran
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Gert & Abby Hedengran
We are all guilty of the tiger's blood. unless we act now
They could have told the authorities that this was a declawed animal that had never associated killing with eating. They could have called out to the disoriented, starving animal who had known only them as his providers for his whole life. They could have provided valuable insight into the animal's habits and possibly coaxed the animal into a familiar transport. After nine days of being lost and hungry he might have given up his freedom for security. They could have pled for his life. Could a sharp shooter pull the trigger so quickly if they knew the cat's name or knew that there was some tearful owner standing by who would take him home?
The owners could have been fined $500.00 for the escape and saving the money and saving their reputation was more important to them than saving the cat they had bottle raised from a cub. Who would support them with their donations if they knew that the "sanctuary" owners had released a big cat because they didn't want him any more? Coming forward would have been bad for business and in most cases that is all it means to exotic owners; a way to get paid to play with dangerous animals that most people aren't allowed to have. It is an industry of greed and ego masked as a charity in many cases of unaccredited pseudo sanctuaries.
More than 10,000 tigers are thought to be in the hands of private owners across our country. No one knows exactly how many, nor where they are because there is very little regulation requiring notification. They often hail themselves as rescuers and heroes and educators, but when they fall on hard times the animals pay the price.. in this case, the ultimate price.
Even in the best of circumstances these captive animals are paying a price that is far too high. They are born and bred for life in cages, so that we can thrill at their beauty and majesty. They live out 10-20 years of abject boredom, confined to areas that amount to little more than a jail cell; all for crimes that they never committed.
This tiger died free.
We are a nation of people who were rallied to action by the words, "Give me liberty or give me death!" Over the centuries we have fought for. and killed for freedom. It is so important to us that we invade other countries and fight for their freedom as well. Our deterrent to crime is a sentence of confinement. When it is imposed on humans we call it jail, when we impose it on animals we call it a zoo, a "sanctuary", a cage, an ark for the future.but by whatever name you call it, the fact remains that it is imposed deprivation. We do this to animals that we proclaim to love.
Imagine what it might have been like to be this tiger: You have spent your entire life in a 10 foot square room that is barren and devoid of any plant life because you are so enormous, in such a small area, as to crush the life out of every blade of grass. Your water dish is covered in a layer of scum in the summer or a layer of ice in the winter. You have eaten the same meal every day for the past four years and it isn't something that you ever would have chosen to eat had you been free to choose. When times were bad for your owner you may not have eaten for days on end and all you could do was sit there and cry out to the wind because no one could hear you.
Because of the lack of nutrition and exercise you suffer excruciating pain due to your paper shell bones and aching joints. Your teeth have broken and have exposed roots from a lack of calcium and from you chewing on the bars of your cage in a feeble attempt to escape. Your declawed, butchered feet, often with bones protruding through the surface, ache from your constant pacing. Deep inside you know that you were meant to roam free, to be the king of beasts, but that seems like an unreal dream because you don't know anything of the world outside your little cell. You roar out, with a powerful and fearful sound that can be heard 5 miles away, but no one calls back. No one tells you that you aren't alone in the world.
One day your world changes. The door is opened and you think that someone has finally called for your amnesty. At first you just cannot believe your good fortune. There is soft grass beneath your feet for the first time ever. You see sights that you could only imagine before, like the tranquility of the mountains as dusk settles in, like the beauty of a sunrise over the water or just the unimaginable freedom of the coyotes and cougars and bobcats. The ecstasy of the first couple of days over powers the pangs of hunger. You were designed to roam and defend a 400 square mile territory and in nine days your mangled feet have carried you almost 30 miles.
The only food you have ever known was a pile of bloody, fatty mush. You haven't seen anything resembling what you know as food and a 425 pound tiger does have to eat. Instincts from thousands of years are coursing through your veins, but because you never knew your mother, and she never had the three years to devote to your training, you have no idea how to feed yourself. You are weak from hunger, dehydration and more exercise than you have had in your entire life now. The people who had pulled you from your mother's soft, warm, nursing belly and force fed you so that you would depend on them are no where to be found.
Until now you have avoided humans because you wanted to savor every moment of this exhilarating freedom. But now they are coming to you. You see them stalking you through the brush and hear the roars of the helicopters and ATV's. You would like to think that they are coming to bring you something to eat, but you sense the tension in the air. You know that they are afraid of you. If you walk toward them they will shoot, if you turn and run, they will shoot. So you just stand still. and still they shoot.
As you are gasping for air and feel the life blood running from searing bullet holes through your body, what scenes would flash before your eyes? Being torn from your mother. Being handled by countless people who were paying to have their photos taken holding you as a cute little cub. Being forced to perform in a circus act or for some commercial. The monotony of thousands of days from inside your little cage. The hot days with no shade or the cold nights with no way to shield yourself from the blowing snow and rain.
This is all that most captive cats could revisit in those last moments before death, but at least this tiger had a couple of days to add to his experience; a few precious days of what it felt like to be free.
It is easy to be angry at the people involved in this sad situation in California last month but we need to look at how we are promoting this sort of abuse by our actions and more commonly our inaction. Buying products that use animals in their commercials or testing helps to promote this very industry. Two Brothers may have had a nice message, but it used 30 tigers for the film. Where are those cats now? As long as zoos sell or give their animals to brokers who sell them to these road side menageries your support of the zoo is supporting this misery. If you shake your head and say, "What a shame!" and do nothing, you are just as guilty of this tiger's blood.
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let this tiger die in vain. The top photo was the un named tiger who was shot in CA in 2005. Federal authorities said charges were filed relating to the possession of exotic cats by Gert "Abby" Hedengran and his wife, Roena "Emma" Hedengran, owners of Wild World/Tiger Creek Foundation, in the escape and death of Tuffy the tiger. They have denied all responsibility.
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Judge questions whether charges should be heard in criminal court
By Jean Ortiz, jortiz@VenturaCountyStar.com
September 16, 2006
A federal court case involving a former Tierra Rejada Valley couple accused of owning an escaped tiger that was shot and killed in Moorpark last year has hit another snag.
U.S. District Judge George H. King has thrown out the recently submitted signed plea agreements of the alleged owners of the tiger, Gert "Abby" Hedengran and Roena "Emma" Hedengran, until a prosecution issue is resolved.
King questions whether some of the charges the couple face are violations of criminal statutes or more properly heard as regulatory violations, according to court records.
Abby Hedengran had agreed to plead guilty to six counts, including four misdemeanor charges for transporting exotic cats in enclosures of "insufficient structural strength" and in a manner that could cause them harm; exhibiti
ng exotic cats without a license; and keeping the animals in facilities that couldn't prevent their escape, according to court records summarizing the plea agreements submitted Aug. 21. The remaining charges, according to the complaint, are felonies: making a false statement to a federal authority, obstruction of justice and witness tampering.
Emma Hedengran had agreed to plead guilty to the same misdemeanor charges minus the exhibiting without a license charge.
King has called into question only the misdemeanor charges and suggests that they could be violations of administrative rules, subject to an administrative hearing before the Department of Agriculture. If so, punishment would be in the form of fines rather than prison time. It does not affect the felony charges Abby Hedengran faces, which are still intact, nor indicate the case could be thrown out.
"It's better to figure it out now than it is to convict them and then find out later through the appellate process at the U.S. Court of Appeals that this was never a crime and have the convictions reversed," said Alfred Vargas, a Ventura lawyer not connected with the case but familiar with federal court proceedings.
The matter is not unusual, but merely an area of untested law, he said.
Laurie Levenson, a Loyola Law School professor and former federal prosecutor, agreed, saying it's always good when there is thorough consideration of a case.
"It's an indication that they're a bit in uncharted territory and they want to make sure they are on the right track," she said.
The couple were to appear in court Sept. 5 for the change of plea hearing, but that was pushed off pending resolution of this latest issue.
Lawyers have until Sept. 25 to submit briefs arguing whether the couple violated the criminal code or administrative rules.
The Hedengrans were at the center of controversy during a weeklong search for the exotic cat in February 2005. The 352-pound tiger was found in a city park and shot and killed by wildlife officials out of concern for public safety. Authorities alleged the animal belonged to the couple, who had recently moved to the area with nearly two dozen exotic cats, and that the animal escaped two weeks before the search began. A ranch worker's sighting prompted the search.
The couple now live in Nevada.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph Johns, the prosecutor in the case, did not return repeated calls seeking comment.
Janet Sherman, who represents Emma Hedengran in the case, declined comment.
Kimberly Savo, Abby Hedengran's lawyer, was unavailable for comment.
When the couple were initially charged in March 2005, Abby Hedengran faced as much as 60 years in federal prison, while Emma Hedengran faced a maximum 10-year federal prison sentence.
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Josip Marcan Tabby Tigers Josip Marcan Tabby Tigers
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Josip Marcan
Josip Marcan , is the owner of Adriatic Animal Attractions or Tigers of India. Check for yourself to see if they meet the sanctuary standards for an accredited animal refuge. He claims to be breeding white tigers and tabby tigers for conservation purposes, but his tigers are not part of the only internationally sanctioned Species Survival Plan. Given the amount of inbreeding necessary to create a white tiger or a tabby tiger (a color that sometimes appears when trying to breed the recessive white mutation) it is understandable why no real conservation program would include his stock. See an interactive online map of exotic cat owners . See people being stupid with big cats, endangering themselves and others HERE . See the awful conditions that many captive cats endure HERE .
FL:Tiger bites man said to be drunk (Josip Marcan's tiger)
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Tiger bites man said to be drunkThe trucker who pulled a caged tiger to the Putnam County Fair left in a helicopter with a bitten arm early Sunday morning.
Jason Wayne Hardin, 25, of Westville, was attacked after he stuck his arm into the sleeping tiger's cage about 2:25 a.m., said Major Keith Riddick of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.
Riddick said Hardin's sister, Heather Bass, alerted a deputy working at the fair that she needed help transporting her injured brother, who she said was very drunk.
Hardin was taken to the Putnam County Hospital and then flown to Shands at the University of Florida, where he was treated and released for severed tendons in his forearm, said Kat Kelley, a public information officer for the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.
She said a deputy spotted Hardin stumbling down a flight of stairs earlier that night and told him to go sleep it off. On his way to his trailer, Hardin either brushed the cage or put his hand in the cage, and Kelley said she suspects the tiger was frightened by him. She said the animal has no record of problems at public events.
"This was strictly human error and poor judgment," she said. "These are wild animals, and no matter how tame they are, they're still animals."
Kelley said Hardin was visibly traumatized and had several punctures in his arm. When she talked to him at the hospital Sunday afternoon, he told her he remembered brushing against the cage, but he thought the tiger pulled his arm in with its claw before biting him. But a witness told her otherwise.
"We may never know whether he put his arm in or whether it was pulled in," she said.
The tiger could be seen playing with other tigers on display at the fair Sunday after Florida Wildlife Lt. Rick Brown inspected the exhibit and ruled it safe. The fair officially opens to visitors today.
Under state safety requirements, there must be a certain distance between the animals' cages and a perimeter fence around them, and it was set up correctly, Kelley said.
She said Hardin's trailer was inside the perimeter fence, which is why he was able to access the tiger. The tiger's owner, Josip Marcan of Adriatic Animal Attractions, recently hired Hardin to transport the animal and put up the fencing, but he was directed not to bother the tiger, Kelley said.
Hardin's wounds aren't life threatening but a 15-year tiger stuntman who has nursed several tiger bites of his own said there's a high risk of infection when a tiger punctures someone's skin.
If the tiger recently ate and had food particles in its mouth, the risk runs even higher, Randy Miller said.
He should know. Miller owns several tigers, and he's president of the stunt company Predators in Action, which has reenacted tiger, lion and bear attacks for countless television networks.
A tiger similarly punctured Miller's forearm while he staged a stunt for the movie, "The Gladiator." He said doctors typically prescribe heavy antibiotics for such wounds, and often stitches are required.
The stuntman hears of at least one serious tiger biting incident each year. He said he thinks the tiger attack on Roy Horn of famed entertainers Siegfried and Roy - which he has reenacted several times - made tiger attacks seem more common than they are.
"There's tens of thousands of tigers in captivity. For the amount of exposure there is in zoos, parks, the film industry and private owners, I think that's a pretty low (injury) ratio from an animal that's potentially deadly," he said.
Miller said professional handlers can work with animals that know them, but strangers shouldn't tamper even with the tamest of tigers.
"Some people misread the animals and think they appear to be affectionate and friendly, and then they stick their arm in and get bit. It's hard to say why the cat bit the guy, but it's just bad practice to try to play with the tiger," he said.
Tiffany Pakkala can be reached at 338-3111 or pakkalt@gvillesun.com
FL: Tiger Bites Worker at Putnam County Fair
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By Grayson Kamm
First Coast News
PALATKA, FL -- The Putnam County Fair will still open Monday even though a fair worker was bitten by a tiger in an exhibit there the day before.
Investigators say the man stuck his hand into a white Bengal tiger's cage.
Deputies say Jason Hardin was so drunk early Sunday morning, they threatened to arrest him if he didn't go to bed. According to officers, Hardin agreed to head back to his trailer and walked off.
But instead of going to bed, deputies say Hardin climbed over a four-foot-high security fence, walked through a grassy area, and stuck his hand into the locked cage of a four-year-old tiger.
Hardin is not one of the people approved to work with the animals.
He was treated for bite wounds to his forearm and hand and later released from Shands Gainesville.
"As soon as the owner came out of the trailer, the tiger released its grasp of him -- so it's probably about a thirty second event," said Putnam County Sheriff Dean Kelly.
"A foolish thing, and I'm sure the subject -- if he had to do it all over again -- wouldn't stick his hand inside the tiger cage," Kelly said.
The state says the cat involved has no past problems.
"Wild animals -- when provoked -- are going to do what wild animals do, and that's protect themselves and their territory," Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Officer Kat Kelley explained.
The state's Fish and Wildlife Commission inspects every traveling exotic exhibit like this one. This particular show passed a state review just two weeks ago, Officer Kelley said.
"It [also] passed the inspection this morning. They've done everything right, they've got the correct safety barriers, the cage is locked, everything is in order. This was simply a matter of an error in judgment," Officer Kelley said.
"There's no fault of the owner here at all. So it's, again, a safe event for the citizens to come here and enjoy the fair," Sheriff Kelly added.Created: 3/19/2006 8:29:57 PM
The fact that Florida's Wildlife Conservation Commission permits and defends this sort of reckless behavior is an embarrassment to Floridians. This story was picked up by Associated Press and run all over the globe. These are just a few of the places that aired the story:
Worker is bitten by tiger at fair
Palatka Daily News - Palatka,FL,USA
EAST PALATKA — A 4-year-old Bengal tiger bit the hand of an exhibit employee who, for unknown reasons, stuck his arm in the cage Sunday morning, according to ...
Man bitten by tiger at county fair
St. Augustine Record - St. Augustine,FL,USA
A 25-year-old man was bitten by a Bengal tiger at the Putnam County Fair when he stuck his arm into the tiger's cage while he was intoxicated, according to ...
Tiger bites man at county fair in Florida
ABC7Chicago.com - IL, USA
March 20, 2006 (GAINESVILLE, Fla.) - Authorities say a trucker who transported a tiger to a county fair in Florida was treated at a hospital after the animal ...
Tiger bites man at Putnam County Fair
Miami Herald - FL,USA
GAINESVILLE, Fla. - A trucker who transported a tiger to the Putnam County Fair was treated at a hospital after the animal bit his arm, authorities said. ...
Tiger bites man at county fair in Florida
Seattle Post Intelligencer - USA
-- A trucker who transported a tiger to the Putnam County Fair was bit in the arm after he apparently stuck his arm in the big cat's cage, officials said. ...
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USD A twice cited event for violations
By Lisa Wolverton
Ka Leo Copy Editor
June 03, 2004Lisa Wolverton * Ka Leo O Hawai'i
An investigation by the United States Department of Agriculture found that tigers from Adriatic Animal Attractions were being mistreated. Animal Rights Hawai'i now wants to boycott the show.Animal rights activists gathered outside Aloha Stadium's 50th State Fair last Sunday, in order to protest the Bengal tiger show.
Members of Animal Rights Hawai`i, a local nonprofit animal anti-cruelty organization, encouraged fair patrons to boycott the tiger show. They distributed bright yellow flyers, which revealed the animal cruelty citations against the tigers' owner.
"The whole traveling animal act business is wrong for the animals," said Cathy Goeggel, founding member and president of Animal Rights Hawai`i. "The lives these animals live is pretty terrible".
The traveling tiger show is comprised of seven adult tigers and two cubs. It is sponsored by Adriatic Animal Attractions, which is based in Florida. The adults perform three 20-minute shows each day. The cubs are kept in a small pen for patrons to watch as they play with plastic balls and interact with their handlers.
According to a United States Department of Agriculture investigation report, Josip Marcan, owner of Adriatic Animal Attractions, was cited in 2000 and 2001 for violations of the Animal Welfare Act. The investigations found unsanitary food preparation and storage, inadequate ventilation and water supply, and failure by handlers to make regular checks on the tigers. The report was obtained by Goeggel from the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, the world's largest animal rights organization.
"The violation write-ups were intentional", said Mike Inks, a tiger handler for Marcan's show.
Inks said that after a group of tigers was contracted out to Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus, Marcan was told the animals must travel by train. A train does not allow for a proper watering system or allow the handlers to give the tigers the attention they require. Because of this, Marcan chose to report the situation to the USDA, realizing the negative publicity, in order to allow the tigers to travel by semi trailer.
"'If this is the only way I can get them off the train, I'm going to do it,'" Inks said, quoting Marcan.
Inks said the tigers were transported to Hawai`i via container ship. The voyage took four days.
The fair will host the tiger show through the month of June. Because the tigers only perform on weekends, they spend most of their days sleeping in open metal cages on a flatbed truck or on wood shavings in the performing arena.
"Tigers naturally sleep for 15 to 20 hours a day," Inks said, adding that when the tigers return home to the 80-acre Marcan Tiger Preserve in Florida, they usually spend their time sleeping, despite having more than enough room to roam and run.
According to Inks, there are 30 tigers in Marcan's breeding program but only 7 adults are in the traveling act. Some are out on loan and the rest stay home due to their varying inabilities to perform.
"We pick the animals that thrive in this kind of atmosphere," Inks said of the animals on tour. "The performing tigers are usually on the road for a couple of months then home for a month", Inks said. All were born into Marcan's breeding program.
Marice Horiuchi attended the show but was not aware of Animal Rights Hawaii's flyers.
"They demonstrated their natural behavior. I don't think they exploited them," Horiuchi said about the act.
Although the fair usually hosts an animal act every year, this is the first year for the tiger show.
Goeggel said Animal Rights Hawai`i has been protesting animal acts at the fair for the past 10 years, which include a high diving mule, alligator wrestler and a chimpanzee show.
Goeggel said about 300 flyers were handed out, and the group plans to hand out more in the coming weekends in hopes of persuading patrons to boycott the show.
Goeggel concluded, "It's a bad life for the animals and it does nothing to enhance people's appreciation for their beauty."
© 2004 Ka Leo O Hawaii
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On March 8, 2006 while Josip Marcan's Tigers of India show was in Tampa we interviewed his keeper Andy about the life these 9 tigers have on the road and what life is like at their facility in the panhandle.Andy said that Josip was a vet in Germany and we did a search on him under the name Josip Marcan and can find no professional license in that name.He said he was involved in a circus act and then bought some tigers and started breeding them.He said there are more than 30 tigers now and the nine we saw were on the road most of the time;sometimes for three months at a time.He claimed the tigers liked to travel because they were so bored at home.
He described home as being in the panhandle on 80 acres but said that only a small portion of the land was being used.He said the tigers live in a barn that is much like the trailer they live in on the road that opens up on one side to a small cage and on the other side to a cage about 60 x 100.He said as long as the tigers are getting along, they can all share the same space, but if they fight, as they do when the females are in heat, then some of them have to be locked up.He said they are not open to the public and that no one can come in and see how the cats live when we pressed him to let us visit.Andy said that they are starting a 501 c 3 charity so that they can ask for donations to support them since he said they can't make much money doing these traveling shows.He acknowledged that the cost of setting up at one of these shows costs about what they make from it.
He said that Josip breeds and sells tigers but he didn’t know for how much and couldn’t name anyone who had bought a tiger. He said, “Places like Busch Gardens” but when we asked if Busch Gardens had actually gotten any cats from Marcan he didn’t know. Andy seemed to believe that the SSP wouldn’t include Marcan tigers because they didn’t have any pure Bengal tigers for breeding, but that makes one wonder why an ex-circus performer would have pure bred Bengals when no zoo in America does. More curious is why one would intentionally breed for characteristics, such as white coats, that cannot survive in the wild when the supposed reason for breeding is conservation.
Andy volunteered that the cats get stir crazy with nothing to do, but that the cats at home never get a break from the boredom because they do not get to travel. He said the oldest cat was 18 and that most of them were around 7 years of age. He said that during shows he walks around with the 9 unrestrained cats and “loves all over them to show people how nice they are.” In a country where almost anyone can go out and buy one as a pet, this is particularly disturbing “education.”
Seeing an air conditioner on the human portion of the travel trailer, I asked if the cats had air conditioning. He said that to have air conditioning would be worse for them than the heat. He said the metal trailer, with metal doors that fold in to make it totally enclosed for travel, had fans but I couldn’t see them. There were small vents at the top of the trailer about 6 inches high by 12 inches long that slide half open to allow air into the trailer while it is in motion. How many times have you been stuck in traffic where there was motion to create any breeze?
In a state where temperatures are often up into the 90’s and traffic is always a problem, imagine being one of nine 500 pound, fully furred cats locked inside a metal trailer atop a virtual parking lot of asphalt. When you visit the Renaissance Festival or a Fairground is this the sort of thing that you want your ticket to be paying for?
Andy said that Josip is working on legislation that will allow him to exchange breeders with pure bloodlines from India. Currently CITES does not allow tigers to be taken from the wild and bred for circus acts or the pet trade. Andy really seems to believe that what he is doing is good for the cats and he was not trying to disparage Josip Marcan in his candid answers. It is this abject ignorance of the big picture and all that is wrong with breeding a big cat for a life of confinement and boredom that is most disturbing.
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From: exoticanimals2@...
Date: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:46 pm
Subject: Re: Bay News 9 exoticanimals3I found the earlier post that someone had taken off of Bay News 9 and I am wondering why that specific post was copied and pasted with out posting all of them. In case anyone would like to see the other posts I have copied and pasted them.
Jude
From: " Deb" < chimps@...
Date: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:06 pm
Subject: BCR news clip now available to view luvgr8apesThe news story can now be viewed at the following site:
http://www.phoenixexotics.org
Permission to cross post most definitely granted
From: " Deb" < chimps@...
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:01 pm
Subject: BCR & FCF connection is fact luvgr8apes
Straight from BCR site.. When did Carolyne join FCF, 2000? Sounds like Carole
Baskin doesn't allow or approve of volunteers who do not agree with her ideas.
But it's ok for CC to remain... how convenient.3/16/06 Chris Hawes interviewed former volunteers who had left our mission prior
to the year 2000 due to their failure to evolve with our understanding thatexotic cats should not be bred, sold, traded or used for personal gain. Message: 16
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:23:37 -0000
From: " slowswimmer1 " thomaskirby169@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: MN: Wow! We got noticed! DetailsIt's just crazy. A lot of this stuff seems so very staged that I get suspicious. I made this speech about how it wasn't necessary for there to be a conspiracy and they were just taking advantage of natural occurences but there are features of both the Hilderbrand
incident and the Gamble incident that are very suspicious, stinking of setups. Maybe all it was was that they were so mentally ready for it. But the Gamble incident came shortly after Meme's death and a lot of Quist's bashing of other tiger owners including Gamble. Sometimes things happen at far too opportune a time. Even without being guilty of arranging incidents, some of these people are obvious ghouls.Sometimes they deliberately employ the most indecent tactics that they can excuse, like attacking someone right after a family member has died and driving them to have to move their animals when they are disabled by grief. When they are that indecent, arranging incidents doesn't seem like such a stretch anymore. I don't really think that
this kind of vulture has the patience to wait until something dies of natural causes.A long time ago a writer by the name of Vance Packard talked about a "screwing by expertism." Experts on a given subject would lie to support a given agenda, like we are seeing. The "truth" became what the hired experts said. Real people have big trouble understanding what happened because they have trouble believing that such lies
carried such weight, especially when they know that a lot of people don't believe those lies or the experts.But the PETA types have really played both ends against the middle and screwed us around. People really do expect PETA types to push for laws allowing people to keep big cats and oppose those laws on those grounds even through PETA has very vocally opposed private ownership. How do people get so confused? It's because PETA deliberately confuses people. Local authorities often deliberately confuse people too. Why does one sanctuary get a pass and another doesn't? To further the confusion, to make people think that the animals are being rescued, and because they know which sanctuary owners are willing to conspire to destroy the others. Someone like Quist gains an unlimited supply of animals that she doesn't have to pay the owners for. She
gets the donations for "rescuing" the animals. A lot of them no one is going to know if they were euthanized to make space and made into fur coats the way Baskins does. They even confuse people about why the "rescues" were necessary, when it's often due to the ban laws.I am having real trouble living with all of this.
Message: 8
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:17:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: BOB PITT <azooforu@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Re: drawing attention to zoo incidentsYOU ARE NOT A ZOO !!! You may be licensed like a zoo, you may be inspected like a zoo, but I PROMISE you that you will NOT be considered a ZOO to the general
public or to a politician. You are a "private collector, a road side attraction." You are no
different then any other USDA licensed facility that does NOT have an AZA stamp by their name.Read the first post I wrote. I said we need to show the experts are wrong and are not deserving their EXPERT status.
We are NOT showing that ownership is this or ownership is that. We are showing AZA is nothing more then a club. they have the same incidents as everyone else. We are showing that PETA is a scam, as well as HSUS. We are showing the BCR is a lying, thieving witch. We are showing that WAO is a lying, thieving witch that needs to go back to her own country and deal with their animal problems. We are showing that TAOS and ASA are both nothing more then CLUBS, that have NO more experience, or better care then any private keeper.
We need to show how these groups with their experts cause the deaths of 100's to thousands of animals every year. PETA claims 90% of ALL MACAQUE monkeys
have Siamian B. If this were true many people would be dead every year, when in fact the last death due to S. B. was to a research tech. working with a known Siamian B monkey, NOT A PRIVATE KEEPER !! These "EXPERTS" have casued many monkeys to be killed because they are "BELIEVED" to have a diesease.. This is what we MUST SHOW !!!We must stop hiding in the shadows, we must stop thinking we are exempt, we must stop saying cat people are worse then monkey people. Stand TOGETHER and call our enemies BLUFFS. They can NOT show proof of ANY of their claims. Likewise , most if NOT all of our major enemies have such a SHADY BACKGROUND, that if we go on the attack and ask questions into their groups we can and will win victories every step of the way.
Their comes a time in every fight to drop the gloves. NOW is the time to hit right in the nose. This will snap the @#@#$#@%@$'s back into th real world. It is time to STOP turning the other cheek, stop letting it go in one ear and out the other. It is time to PUNCH them right in the nose and give them a REALITY BREAK.
Message: 11
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 15:19:55 -0400
From: "Ray" < rrooney@ucwphilly.rr.com
Subject: Re: drawing attention to zoo incidentsPeople are listening to zoos damn EVERY other form of owner and exhibitor. Zoos have credibility. Everybody assumes they know everything.
Yes, zoos are working with AR groups. This is largely because they feel superior to everyone and think they don't make mistakes. They feel invulnerable to criticism. They have defused most of the classic "ethical" questions regarding captivity to the public's mind. They feel safe.
If we place THEM in perspective maybe they will see the same arguments can be used against them. Keepers and public get hurt in every segment, not just "pet" ownership, which is low by comparison.
The sanctuary groups also feel secure since they are directly in bed with the AR groups. Airing their dirty laundry would make them less willing to criticize others. They get a COMPLETE pass as things stand now. They are the number ONE thrust behind ban pushes and ALWAYS get themselves exempted.
If they thought THEY risked facing the same consequences of a ban they'd be a LOT less willing to demand them, maybe even shut up or change sides.
How long would Carole Baskin campaign for changes to Florida's laws if she knew they would shut her down too?
The public is not getting the whole picture on this anymore than they get it on 95% of any other stories. The media takes a side, doesn't question info supplied by those it agrees with, and acts as a tool, knowingly or unwittingly, to push the agenda.
Most of the time they never hear the true details. If they did they would hesitate to lie by omission lest it come back to bite them. No reporter likes to be embarrassed.
We have to provide perspective. Nobody else will. A few seeds of doubt here and there could kill some stories and campaigns and change directions of others.
Staying silent is accepting the current situation, even endorsing it.
Ray
Point out shady pasts
Message: 22
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 08:45:47 -0000
From: " Marsha " <marshaha@pressenter.com
Subject: Re: MN: Wow! We got noticed! Details--- In Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com, Tim Stoffel <tim@... wrote:
Any theories what happened here?Not enough info on this specific case, and it looks like no witnesses. Past history of the tiger and the autopsy may be the only clues. If you like conspiracy theories...I have to wonder if someone has come up with something to agitate big cats into being more likely
to attack (unbeknownst to the handler, who would otherwise take sensible precautions) A device that plays an annoying sound the human can't hear, a scent, etc. Who has a vested interest in seeing more attacks happen, so they can pontificate on how the incident proves
that private ownership should be banned? Perhaps the best Anti ammo of all is when the person that is injured or killed is someone with years of experience, who truly love their animals, who are assumed to be able to "read" their animals. You'd think that every owner would be taking extra precautions these days with so much publicity about each incident. So why are these incidents happening? Complacency on the part of handlers, perhaps a defensive desire to prove large carnivores aren't the killing machines the media portrays? Inbreeding? Environmental factors? Or a deliberate act?Marsha
Message: 23
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 08:48:31 -0000
From: " Marsha " <marshaha@pressenter.com
Subject: Re: MN: Wow! We got noticed! Details--- In Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com, Tim Stoffel <tim@... wrote:
tell you how many times (the tiger) kept running at the fences and just making that screeching roar. It's something I'll probably never, ever forget. I don't know how these people get used to it and work with those animals."It's not the spine-tingling "screeching roar" that steals human hearts, it's those chuffs of greeting and purrs of contentment.
Marsha
Message: 24
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 05:48:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: BOB PITT <azooforu@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Re: MN: Wow! We got noticed! DetailsThe zoo director who states he is against private ownership, what can we find on him. At least a dozen accidents have occured in the USA at ACCREDITED ZOO's. The time has come to show the faults of all of our enemies. AZA, TAOS, ASA, BCR, ACE. Everyting from questionable financial records, to lacking health papers, to violations of the AWA. This needs to be complete and detailed, then we can present it to a national paper and show facts, NOT opinons.. WOULD ANYONE like to lend a hand on getting this together, proofing and set-up and final print. This has to be done to combat comments like the Sen.made in the paper about banning them all. It has to be done in a detailed, and undeniable fashion. This is what is on our side. Figures are real for us, and
INFLATED against us.. This is what we MUST show. Message 12
From: " lndmonk@aol.com " lndmonk@aol.com
Date: Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:21pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Getting paranoid nowIn a message dated 4/13/06 12:19:19 AM Central Daylight Time,
aklizard@ptialaska.net writes:well if we license all breeding it should weed out, or breed out irresponsible people too, then only responsible ones could reproduce, why limit it to dogs?and accidental breedings would be banned too, by making a law that all must be neutered but the approved , surely that is more dire with all the billions I believe API, BCR,WAO and many many other licensed facilities are proof irresponsible, lying, cheating, and corrupt people are not weeded out by simply licensing ....Again who will be the judge of who is responsible and allowed to breed and who is not?? TAOS? PETA? HSUS? USDA? AZA? Linda
_Simply Simian_ (http://www.simply-simian.com/)
Re: Zoning Report
Message 18
From: " exoticanimals2@comcast.net " exoticanimals2@comcast.net
Date: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:17am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Big Cat Rescue approved for rezoningWatch for their upcoming news on Washington's Channel News 5. Will be airing
next week. I also, will be a part of that news.
Jude From: Bigcats10@aol.com
County officials give Big Cat Refuge the right to rezone 3 acres for housing
and other amenities.By JACKIE RIPLEY, Times Staff Writer
Published April 14, 2006...and who was watching the tigers?
Posted on Fri, Apr. 14, 2006
Details emerging from the tragic Pine County tiger attack that took the life of trainer Cynthia Gamble last week paint a more gruesome picture than previously imagined. The tiger, now euthanized, was examined and found to have had parts of the woman's body in its stomach. The cat was at least 150 pounds underweight, no doubt a major factor in the killing.
Gamble, who held a USDA license for her bankrupt Center for Endangered Cats, was described by friends as an expert handler who "loved" her feline charges. That would have been tough love at best. No reasonable parent would starve a child out of love, and Gamble's terrible fate offers the most compelling case yet against private ownership of big cats.
Not helping is the confusion of who's really acting in the interest of the animals. Carole Baskin of Big Cat Rescue in Tampa, Fla., denounces private ownership of menageries such as Gamble's. Las Vegas tiger trainer Zuzana Kukol expressed support of Gamble but accuses Baskin of breeding cats rather than rescuing them from abusive owners. Baskin calls that "old news," saying her past actions are what make her so adamant against the practice.
Whatever. The whole scat fight is reason, as expressed in a letter on this page, for restricting big cats to their natural habitats or zoos -- and accredited ones at that.
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/du luthtribune/news/opinion/14337083.htm
Caro le’s Note: Zuzana Kukol was the VP of Phoenix Exotics and may still be.
From: "Tim Stoffel" < tim@lionlamb.us
To: <Phoenix_Exotics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Aslan / Big Cat RescueOn Fri, 2006-04-14 at 14:58 -0400, Jerry & Linda Gleisser wrote:
Thought you'd find this result I got from googling Narnia artwork
interesting:Aslan Lion Photo with Cub
Find out what having your picture
with a baby big cat is all about.
www.BigCatRescue.orgIt took me a few minutes to find this as a SPONSORED LINK on Google. If you follow the link, it takes you to one of Carole Baskin's anti exhibiting pages, full of misinformation and hate. I wonder if there is a way to petition Google not to accept money for such a misleading link.
Further, to use the good name of ASLAN to promote her twisted agenda is reprehensible. Aslan is such a special name among lions that I would never even use that name myself. In my opinion, using Aslan's name this way is the same as using God's name in vain. All this will do is call a well-deserved curse down on Mrs. Baskin.
For the lions,
Tim Stoffel Message 17
From: " Prometheus Horse " prometheus_horse@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:13am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Aslan / Big Cat RescueWhy not squabble about it on the boards related to the movie and get them roaring at BCR about their use of the name . Picketing movie-fanatics isn't good press no matter how you slice it so I'd bet it'd disappear in a hurry.
DTF
Message 18
From: " BOB PITT " azooforu@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:01am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Aslan / Big Cat RescueAlso, is that more "LOBBYING" on there part. We have a non-profit and I know that you can only use a very small portion of you revenue for this purpose. I'm sure all trips to all the bans they are pushing are on this, as well as the people who write them up, and I
wonder what kind of "GIFTS" the board got to go against everyone else to allow their zoning ?? Do you think they (board) did it for a free years pass .. LOL Message 22
From: " Ray " rrooney@ucwphilly.rr.com
Date: Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:32am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Aslan / Big Cat RescueSend the link to Disney legal and see what they think. They probably have a trademark issue here. This is akin to selling toys with the name on them. Be sure to send a copy of Carole's 20-year plan so they understand she's an enemy of theirs too.
Otherwise there's a risk of them allowing her to do it as a charitable act.
Ray
Message 24
From: " Ray " rrooney@ucwphilly.rr.com
Date: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:02am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Aslan / Big Cat RescueDANGER!
That's the WORST thing we could do. (Been there!)
There's a very REAL danger that they would actually encourage Disney to sanction it as a PR move.
Think about it: Concerned, loving, sanctuary for poor abused pet big cats wants to get support for its oh-so-wonderful work. What a swell opportunity for promotion and positive PR for a big and hated media company!
And it's for the lions, right?
And if Disney doesn't do it they will be attacked as a cold, heartless, corporation by the movie crowd, as is their habit. So, which way will Disney/Walden jump in that situation?
Remember, those people neither know who Baskin is nor the complex exotic animal industry, animal rights/liberation, and political web. Many right here haven't gotten it yet. Many there WILL be AR-leaning to start with.
The result? BCR gets an OK AND a powerful media partner - which owns networks - to promote her agenda.
Can't you just see it? "This week on ABC! At 8:00 it's Carole Baskin's World of Wild Cats!" You thought the crocodile hunter was big? Get a real media outfit behind her and watch the dust. Tippi will be an old forgotten star but Carole will be a current name.
Better write Disney fast, before Carole and her AR friends sell them on it. Mention her back story. Don's murder, etc.
Ray
Message 1
From: " annette.lundberg " annette.lundberg@chello.se
Date: Sun Apr 16, 2006 0:48pm(PDT)
Subject: Carol Baskin and bigcatrescueHi,
i am forwarding this from the bobcat-lynx list Its interesting though...
Annette
Vänliga Hälsningar
Annette & Sirpelkvick
From: "Cyndi" <luna6killer@...>
Date: Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:54 pm
Subject: Fw: [hybridcats] IMPORTANT SEND THIS TO EVERY CAT/HYBRID LIST YOUCANHi everyone - this came thru on another list I belong to - please check it out and then see if you can help. This site has the most damaging slide show and the page referred to is very anti-exotic or hybrid owner. There is some evidence (I can't verify it yet) that the owner of this website may actually be a less than honest person as it has been stated that most of her exotics were actually her animals and she was breeding them and selling the kits at one point? Anyways, not trying to start any more 'flames' around here but would like to see if we could keep this from happening. Exotic and hybrid owners do not need a bad rep!! Cyndi
From: <mailto: julia2@gate.net > julia2@gate.net
To: <mailto:julia2@gate.net> julia2@gate.net
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: [hybridcats] IMPORTANT SEND THIS TO EVERY CAT/HYBRID LIST YOU CANHELP COMBAT CAROL BASKIN'S LIES!!!!!
If you google in bengal cats, jungle cat hybrid, chausie, savannah cats, safari cats, or stone cougars (all keywords in the Big Cat Rescue flaming hybrid page, a sponsored link appears on the right hand side of the Google page that reads...
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=l&ai=BspopFJt ARNGaIpHosQGC_YQG8PvGDoykkvYBxL7mtQuQvwUQARgBKAM4A EiTOVCszY7B_f____8BmAHfc6oBBDJOUlPIAQGVAic0LAo& ;num=1&q=http
://www.bigcatrescue.org/hybrids.htm> All Hybrid Exotic Cats
are listed here with photos, facts,
stories, myths & breeder insiders.
www.bigcatrescue.org <http://www.bigcatrescue.org/>
Click on that link and you are directed to the page she has set up maligning hybrid cats, exotics and breeders.
This means that anyone looking on the biggest search engine in the world for a hybrid will promptly see the above sponsored link and fed Carole Baskin's lies . Not only will this impact on adoptions, but it will undermine everything responsible breeders and hybrid owners have worked to accomplish for so many years.
This is a PAY PER CLICK link--anytime anyone clicks on the link, BCR pays.
Go to Google. Type in one of the key words. Click on the sponsored link. When the page appears, hit the "Back" button. Click again. Click as many times as you can in your spare time. If the link does not appear, it means that the daily or monthly budget may have been maxed out. Check back daily and click away. Message 4
From: " Prometheus Horse " prometheus_horse@yahoo.com
Date: Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:15pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Carol Baskin and bigcatrescue (IMPORTANT)*smiles* well, you're sorta half right. Sites log each click by individual IP per day (usually 12m to 11:59p). So if you're on dialup, you can click, log off, sign back on and click again, running their bill up . If you're on DSL you're pretty much stuck to one click a day. But that's a flyby of how IP logging works regarding charge-per-click. Thus, if too many clicks come from an individual IP address they'll void them all, but... the trick is "how many is too many?" Either way... there's the long and the short of it all. DTF
Message 23
From: " Mbrafford@aol.com " Mbrafford@aol.com
Date: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:25pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Re: Need a Big Cat Expert to replySo, does Phoenix launch editorials back at her or is it best to remain silent? I would think silence is our enemy. The Lakeland Area is close to Tampa and Orlando Florida and is the home to a very large SPCA organization. The town also has many of Florida`s politicians living there. I know, I taught their children. The Ledger was chosen for a reason.
Message 1
From: " Ray " rrooney@ucwphilly.rr.com
Date: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:20pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Need a Big Cat Expert to replyIF the Ledger will publish an opposing view then write them.
The SPCA is already working with Carole through HumaneUSA if I recall correctly.
The pliticians are a toss-up. Some may be open to reason and some may agree philosophically with Carole. Contact all you know about and maybe it will create enough doubt to undermine support for her.
Too many believe what they hear and never question or look into things. The material has to be brought to them and shoved under their noses or they will act on slanted views and lies.
Ray
Message 5
From: " Ray " rrooney@ucwphilly.rr.com
Date: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:08pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Need a Big Cat Expert to replyThey also need to be informed that activists are using their editorial pages to push an agenda without their knowledge. A link to the original source should suffice. Maybe they will also want to know about Carole's past.
There are several good stories here for an enterprising reporter. Maybe even a Pulitzer. Ray
Re: Smuggling exotics across state and federal boundaries in violation of the Lacey Act
myzootoyou@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/animalambasador/ (979) 388-0782 Nathan Wheelock < myzootoyou@yahoo.com > wrote: Well.....we were talking about ferrets. 50,000 ferrets are beleived to be in California. CA has advocotes for legalization, yet gets shot down each year. I, for,one, have no problem with people sneaking in ferrets, or hedgehogs/sugar gliders for that matter.
Message 20 From: "Prometheus Horse" prometheus_horse@yahoo.com Date: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:42pm This is primarily directed to Mark Cameron, but just so everyone knows.... I don't promote illegal activities until all legal means are, or have been exhausted. I've done emergency relocations to prevent seizures of animals by the powers that (may times shouldn't) be.... and other similar activities, where the only damage is to the pride of some DA, ACO, or other governmental or quasi-governmental individual. My forte is canines.... which are a bit easier to transport en masse without arousing suspicion, but when it comes to saving an animal's life, you're damn skippy I'd do damn near whatever it takes. And that's something you can take to the bank. And for those that immediately think "AR raids"... no. That's not in me, nor would I ever be that way, but in the hypothetical I wouldn't be averse to aiding in the "disappearance" of an animal accused of something before it can be seized, the midnight-relocation of an accused indivdiual's beloved animals, or even the magical escape of specific animals from the animal version of death row. And yes, I do support the underground exodus of Pit Bulls from the cities of Denver, and would support the same from Aurora if they pass legislation similar to Denver. For any explanation greater than that, you'll have to get to know me personally. DTF
Kathy Gallagher < celticferret@yahoo.com > 614-785-0794 HEART OF OHIO FERRET ASSOC. & RESCUE P.O. Box 15753 Columbus, OH 43215-0753 wrote: Jumping in Without giving you the route there are directions posted on ferret boards for getting into CA without having to go through CA agricultural inspection. There are roads with no inpsection and there are roads where the inspection centers have been closed due to budget cuts. It's all in the knowing and in the time of day. KG
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